Posted by: kevinfortruth | April 6, 2012

Beauty pageants and women’s Olympic basketball.


What could beauty pageants and women’s Olympic basketball possibly have in common?

Up until two weeks ago, the only common thread I could think of was women.  But after a few news segments, these two contests appear to be in for some legal posturing that might change them forever.

For years I have seen numerous television shows that were dedicated to boys who sometime during their childhood felt that they were really a girl inside – even though they were born male.

During their childhood they preferred to play with dolls instead of playing cowboys and Indians – they preferred sneaking into pretty dresses and Mary Jane’s instead kahki’s, an Oxford shirt and tie.

Recently, several shows have gone into great detail of how some of these children when they get into their late teens or twenties are deciding to get hormone treatments so they will lose some of their hair and start developing breasts.  That is usually the first step in a long process in becoming a woman.

In most situations, that is enough.  Many men who start the transition in becoming a woman delay the final procedure – sexual reassignment – in where their male is partially removed and the remainder is used to create a vagina.

Enough about all the physical transition.

It was necessary to briefly talk about that last physical change because that is the piece that needs to take place in many situations for this new person, if you will, to be legally acknowledged as a woman.

In some cases, that final step has to be made at a point in time.  By that I mean just like a person cannot vote until he or she is 18, there are certain things a person who goes through a sex change cannot do until five years have passed since the sex change.  I have no idea as to why but that is the rule in certain situations.

So, how does all this matter to beauty pageants and Olympic basketball? 

In the case of beauty pageants, Miss Universe in particular, it is hard enough for contestants who are born as women to compete and win the title.  I personally believe that it would take an exceptional person to be born as a man and then to go through a sex change and become a woman beautiful enough to effectively complete against women who have been competing in pageants most of their lives.  By that I mean that men usually have stronger features and women have softer, feminine features and it would be hard for one to be born with more handsome, stronger features to compete in a contest where the majority of contestants are usually a little shorter, slighter built, and have softer lovelier features.

There are exceptions, however, and I think some men probably have a combination of both genders at birth even though they appear to be a male.  So, when someone having some female features decides to transition, it becomes a smoother transition – especially in appearance.

Here is where the glitch comes in.  When the contest is only on a physical appearance basis, i. e. a beauty pageant, I have no problem with that.  It doesn’t require lifting weights or throwing a shot put or even dunking a basketball.

The truth is I believe the transgendered woman is usually at a disadvantage in a beauty pageant – especially if the judges and the audience is aware that a given contestant went through sexual reassignment surgery – but if “she” really wants to compete, then I am all for it.

The woman in question who is trying to compete in this Miss Universe Pageant is truly beautiful – she has beautiful facial features, a lovely figure, and great legs – but for some reason, when I look at her, I find myself trying to find something that will detract from her appearance – maybe in a way to insure that a biologically born woman wins the competition – but I do not know why.  I am sure the judges will take one end of the argument or another – some will be rooting for “her” specifically because of her transition while others will do what I am doing – possibly with not evening knowing they are doing it.  She would be better off if no one knew of her sexual reassignment surgery – i.e. that they all thought she was born a woman.

Here is a link to the Huffington Post that contains a couple of photos of her.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/03/24/transgender-miss-universe_n_1377147.html?just_reloaded=1

Please try not to mentally disqualify her because she is either too tall or because her legs might be too thin or her shoulders might be to broad or because she has an “adams apple” or maybe her voice might be too deep.”  Some of the judge’s will do enough of that!

So, let’s shift to Women’s Olympic Basketball.  Generally, men tend to be taller, on average, than women and from what I have seen on television and on the internet, many men who go through sexual reassignment tend to be on the taller side – not that that is a requirement, but more than not, I feel comfortable saying that the men who transition are probably taller than the average woman – even those playing college basketball.  Again, I might be wrong.

So, when it comes to women’s basketball, a man who has gone through sexual reassignment would have a greater chance of being taller than many of the women on a given team – including the women selected to represent the USA in the Women’s Olympics.

The lady who is in the news who was born a man and now is a woman who wants to play for the USA in the 2016 Olympics is 7’ tall.  Considering that the tallest female player in college is 6’8”, allowing a transgendered female so much taller would change the complexion of the women’s games and whoever she played for would have an unfair advantage.  Therefore, I do not believe the Olympic Committee should permit her to play.

For those of you who need a visual to appreciate what a 7’ female – especially one who was born a male – would do to women’s Olympic basketball, please click on this link.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2114311/Worlds-tallest-transsexual-Lindsey-Walker-hopes-make-U-S-Olympic-team-years-she.html

Also, because she is broader and stronger than any female basketball player she could potentially compete with, she could literally push anyone around under the net.

In closing, my opinion is that if anyone feels that they are someone else inside they should be able to do what they feel is necessary to physically become who they feel they really are.

Everyone does not have to buy into what another person does regarding the transition from one gender to another but at the same time I do not feel others should look down on anyone who makes changes they feel the need to make to become who they need to.

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Responses

  1. Kevin I am going to reply to this but I am doing some major research on a couple of thigs so it might be a day or two before I get it done.

  2. One name for you Renee Richards was a male to female transseaxual and a pro tennis player.

    • So, let’s use Renee Richards in my scenario below. Your adopted daughter, who went to tennis camps and worked hard all her early years to improve her game got good enough to excel and propel herself to number 1 and while Renee had to wait to play as a woman, you daughter won 5 years in a row. When Renee, who was never good enough to win big money as a man, plays against your daughter, and your daughter wins again and Renee comes in 2nd.

      Then Renee wins 9 years in a row and your adopted daughter is devastated. All of your daughter’s friends yell FOUL, FOUL. They start protesting because they know that Renee, who was frustrated as a male tennis player, decided to change gender and only then “she” became number one.

      I only wrote this scenario because I wanted you to feel the pain of someone, in this case your fictitious adopted daughter who is going through so much pain just because one man changed gender and as a result, was able to become number one and win only because of reassignment surgery.

      How would you balance your daughters pain against the right of one person to change gender and use that event to dominate a sport that your daughter worked all her young life to excel?

      I am not the enemy here – from the first time I heard about gender reassignment I have supported a person’s right to have the surgery. It confused me about how a young child, say at 4 years of age, could know that even though he was a “he”, that he also knew there was a “she” inside and that it would take years and years before he would understand that he could make a conscious effort to transition to the woman he felt he was inside for so many years.

  3. Kevin,
    This is a very interesting subject that you are talking about. I have to disagree with you on this matter that they both are the same in ways.
    First of all they are both in a competition to win, yes one is a beauty contest and the other one for the U.S.A basketball team but I look at this matter differently than you do; as I have been with transsexuals before.

    Once they have had their operation to become women they are legally women. There are people like you that watch way too much Jerry Springer and other shows that degrade transgender people.

    Those shows don’t talk about how they lose their families in their transitioning into a woman. Grant there are those families that accept it but for the most part they don’t.

    Here’s a question for you on the basketball player granted she is 7’ foot tall, would you feel the same if she was 6’2” let’s say. Well I don’t have a problem with it and I would disagree with you on her man side coming out if she were to makes the team.

    By the time they start looking for the players for the 2016 Olympic women’s basketball team the hormones will have changed her muscles so that she will be more feminine.

    You know my background on dealings in the transgender community; I think I know a little bit more in this area than you do. Shows like Jerry Springer just really promote the worst transsexuals, the ones that go on his show are just out for one thing and that’s money and there fifteen minutes of fame.

    To me anyone that has felt the need to have reassignment surgery deserves all the rights and privileges of any woman that has been born to her rights. So when one wants to be known for her beauty and one for her ability at sports.

    WHY should they be denied because they chose to correct something they saw as a physical flaw! I say Brava to them for standing up and saying I have the right to not be discriminated against. I am proud of who I am and what I am.

    It takes a lot more courage to be honest and open then it does to lie and hide. I am proud of my own transsexual partner and would never deny her the right to go after what she wants in life.

    So see Kevin both of these women changed the gender to the way they feel and don’t care what the RETARTED PUBLIC CARES. They are happier as women more power to them.

    This is a difficult because of my own personal relationship that I have with my lovely partner.

    • Hi Amiee; Thanks for writing. I am sure both ladies that are the subject of this blog are happy in their lives. The blog itself, though, has nothing to do with being honest and open verus lying and hiding. Those who have not come out yet might be quite unhappy and some of those who have already come out have to deal with relatives and friends who might not be able to deal with the whole issue. As far as friends go, those who cannot accept a person coming out, my thought is that that person or persons are not true friends in the first place. I believe it is even worse when relatives turn their back and disown their own child for making the transition.

      Your comment about 6’2″ versus 7’0″ is compelling but I need to stand my ground on 7’0″ because having one player that tall who would ONY be playing on the women’s team is because she did change from being a man (and voluntarily I might add) would be giving ONE team a tremendous advantage and that would be unfair for the sport.

      Just like you and your partner, I have my opinion and each of you have an opinion as well – and we need to respect each other in coming to our own conclusions.

      Let me take an extreme position here: A male professional tennis player, who is usually ranked somewhere between the 10th to 20th in the world decides to go through sexual reassignment surgery. After surgery, she waits the required 5 years that the fictitous professional league requires.

      Oh, while this person was a man, he never won any of the top awards and never finished higher than 10th and as a result never won any of the top five money prizes.

      The first year “she” enters in the woman’s division, she places 2nd and she wins $25,000. For the next 9 years she finishes first and wins the $50,000 first place prize each year.

      Oh, let me complicate this scenario just a little. Prior to this gentleman going through the sexual reassignment, YOUR adopted daughter had been the women’s champion and the 5 years while the transgendered woman was waiting to meet the requirement of the league, your daughter won the tournament for those five years and has enjoyed the $50,000 prize each year.

      The first year the transgendered woman played as a woman, your daughter beat her and again, won the $50,000 prize and the transgender came in second, winning $25,000. But then, this “new” woman
      won 9 years in a row and your daughter came in 2nd 9 years in a row.

      Your adopted daughter was born a girl and she loves you and your partner very much. She appreciates and respects the whole issue of sexual reassignment but she does not think it fair that this “new” woman has beat her 9 out of the last 10 years.

      Other women, including your daughter, start complaining saying that this ex man could never win as a man but now that he transitioned and became a woman she has won a prize each of the 10 years.

      Do these women have a valid complaint and should the Tennis club change its rules about allowing men who have gone through sexual reassignment surgery to play as women?


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