If Romney wins the White House he will have gotten there by lying all the way.
From what I have read, there are two kinds of liars – sociopaths and compulsive liars – yes, there is a difference.
Until today, I just assumed the two terms were the same or pretty close to being the same, until I read up on them tonight.
To be sure, even after all my reading, I do not claim to be an expert – that would be lying on my part and I do not want to be accused of that.
So, what is the difference between the two? Maybe after reviewing a definition of each category, each of us might come to our own conclusion if either applies to Mitt Romney. Maybe neither does.
The following is from www.addictions.net.
“There are some for whom lying is second nature. Such people are said to be suffering from compulsive liar disorder.”
The following is from:
“As psychopaths are addicted to lying, they frequently contradict themselves. Typically they enjoy harming and bullying others.”
A sociopath is typically defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused – it is done to get one’s way). Sociopaths have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. Sociopaths are often charming and charismatic, but they use their talented social skills in manipulative and self-centered ways.
A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit.
Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit – an automatic response that is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship.
The terms Pathological Liar, Habitual Liar and Chronic Liar are often used to refer to a Compulsive Liar
Back to my blog….
So, we now have the definitions burned in our memory and now all we have to decide is if either applies to Mitt Romney.
I am going to do something unconventional here. I am going to copy the definition of the Sociopath and place it below this paragraph and I am going to insert different things known about Mitt Romney, such as “Bain Capital” and “buying companies” and “outsourcing jobs to China” and “firing people” and “aspiring to higher office” such as Governor of Massachusetts and President of the United States.
I am not doing this to push people toward one definition or another, just to show how one definition might apply – in reality, neither term might apply to Mitt Romney.
The reason I am using the Sociopath is because personal gain is part of the formula – lying is done for personal gain. Compulsive liars simply lie because they lie just for the sake of lying – nothing exciting – one does not have to analyze what is going on when a compulsive liar lies – there is no hidden agenda that you have to figure out.
So, let’s get started.
Again, here is definition of a Sociopath
A sociopath is typically defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused – it is done to get one’s way).
(goal-oriented? Like buying companies and charging excessive management fees and then selling the companies or outsourcing the jobs to China to make obscene profits?)
Sociopaths have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others.
(like not caring for the well-being of employees such as laying off Sensata employees, cancelling their health care, terminating their employment, and raiding their pension fund?)
Also, this part equates to when Mitt, while in prep school, Mitt ran down a fellow student while Mitts friends held down the boy and Mitt used scissors to cut the boy’s blond hair to bully and embarrass him.
Sociopaths are often charming and charismatic,
I think Romney’s charm and charisma shows that he is superficial – he is more worried about how he looks – without a hair out of place – always in a suit – looking like the consummate business person – afraid to let his hair down and roll up his sleeves. Even though he created photo ops during the presidential campaign where he was handling food donations, I could never imaging Mitt stopping to help anyone, never mind a woman, change a tire. If he was driving by a person with car problems, he might have his chauffer call Triple AAA services, but he would never stop – unless there was a camera close by.
(Tall, handsome, persuasive, and self-centered?)
But they use their talented social skills in manipulative and self-centered ways.
(Like when Romney, while at Bain, Romney persuaded employees to build a stand and structure so he could address them and later, while he was addressing them, he told them they were being let go.
That is like hanging a person after making that person build his own gallows in the town square or having a death row felon inject himself with a lethal injection and smiling at him while he slowly dies. Talk about being self-centered, manipulative, and having little concern for others.
Here are a few comments about Sociopaths.
As psychopaths are addicted to lying, they frequently contradict themselves. Typically they enjoy harming and bullying others.
They do not feel remorse at lying or manipulating, and they will lie without limit.
They will say one thing to one person and something different to someone else.
Unfortunately, for Mitt Romney, because he is well known and because he is the son of a man who ran an auto manufacturing company who also ran for President of the United States – it makes sense that when, “Mitt Romney talks, people listen.”
Sorry, I could not pass that up. I hope no one minds that I took the liberty to play with the popular E. F. Hutton commercial, “When E. F. Hutton talks…..”
I can live with Romney changing his positions over a period of time – we all do.
I can also see how a person could evolve from a position of Pro-life to a position of Pro-Choice or reverse.
I can also see how a businessperson, at times, could put profits over principles – becoming materialistic for the good of the company – and maybe even for personal gain.
Where I draw the line, however, is when innocent hardworking people suffer unnecessarily in the process.
To me, Mitt Romney started lying way back when he said he supported the Vietnam war and said that he longed in many respects to be in Vietnam and be representing his country.
I am not going to bring up a ton of cases where Mitt has lied repeatedly – instead, I am only going to briefly discuss two periods in Mitt’s early years – the first when he bullied a fellow student while at prep school – even though he recently said he does not remember the incident and second, his period surrounding when he was attending Stanford University and later dropped out of college, dodged the draft, and went to France to serve as a Mormon missionary.
These two periods is when Mitt planted his “lying seeds” – seeds that ultimately began his obsession with lying.
Mitt learns to cut hair.
A prep school classmate of Mitt Romney said that the presidential candidate was ‘evil’ in his younger years, and acted like he was a schoolboy gone mad ‘like Lord Of The Flies’.
Mitt supposedly mocked another student, who was suspected of being a closeted gay, by shouting “Atta girl!” when the boy tried to speak in class.
Mitt’s most troubling behavior while in prep school was when he chased down a fellow student and forcibly shaved his head, supposedly because this student was rumored to be gay. Mitt took scissors to John Lauber’s hair because Mitt thought the boy’s bleached blond hair was “wrong.”
What I would like to know is what was Mitt Romney lacking in his life than angered him so much to taunt gays or those perceived to be gay or simply different?
Supposedly, Mitt had the world on a string – his father was, at the time, a very successful businessperson and it sounds like he grew up in a loving family.
Was Mitt intimidated by his father’s success and was Mitt fearful that he would not be able to live up to his father’s expectations? Did Mitt feel he had to degrade and humiliate others to make himself appear “superior” in some way?
When asked about the scissors incident, Romney has repeatedly said he does not remember the incident but he said that he did a lot of things in prep school that might have offended others and if that is the case he says he is sorry.
What a load of crap. If I took scissors to anyone, for any reason, at any age, that incident would be burned in my long-term memory forever.
Other students remember the incident quite well.
“Mr. Romney’s campaign staff has contacted a number of the candidate’s former classmates to try to get them to speak out publicly on his behalf.
Stu White, a friend of Mr. Romney’s who attended Cranbrook School with the candidate, said that he is ‘still debating’ if he will help the campaign after he received a call from Mr. Romney’s older brother Scott.
Mr. White, who says he is not the only classmate to have been contacted by the campaign, was quoted in the explosive Washington Post article as saying that he has ‘long been bothered’ by the hair-cutting incident.
Phillip Maxwell, an old friend of Mr. Romney’s, called the incident ‘bullying supreme’.
‘I grew up with him. We were best friends in elementary school. We always remained friends. Mitt is wonderful, very bright, an enormously energetic human being… a friend all my life, but this was a side of him that I hadn’t seen,’ Mr. Maxwell said.
ABC News cites an unidentified classmate as saying that ‘a lot of guys’ who attended Cranbrook School have ‘really negative memories’ of Mr. Romney’s behavior.
Apparently, those classmates are hesitant to come forward because of Mr. Romney’s denials when the incidents have been discussed.
‘It makes these fellows (who have told the stories) very remorseful. For (Mr. Romney) not to remember it? It doesn’t ring true. How could the fellow with the scissors forget it?’ the man told ABC.”
So, let’s shift from Mitt “The prep school bully” Romney to Mitt “The draft dodger” Romney.
First, a little history about Mitt Romney after graduating Prep School.
- Mitt Romney attended Stanford and receives a college deferment – attending school for two semesters before dropping out.
- Romney receives a 31-month religious deferment and goes to France to serve as a Mormon missionary for 28 months. He received the 4-D deferment even while other Mormon men were denied the same classification.
- Mitt returns from France and receives another college deferment.
- Mitt received his fourth deferment but by then the war was winding down.
My biggest concern, however, is not the four deferments Romney got – especially if they were all legitimate when issued.
My one and only concern is how Mitt lied about his desires to serve and whether he did anything to prevent being called up to serve.
It was one thing back then to sign up for the draft as required and when you did, you got a number – the lower the number, the more likely you would be called up – the higher the number, the more it meant you would miss serving in the military.
Many signed up for the draft and then, instead of waiting and waiting – some chose to voluntarily enlist into one of the four branches of the military.
In my case, I signed up for the draft after I graduated from high school in 1962 but I chose to immediately volunteer to serve in the Air Force for four years instead of being drafted in the Army for two years.
I ended up reenlisting several times culminating with my retirement from the Air Force in 1983.
Some signed up for the draft and then applied for one of the many deferment reasons to avoid being called up for service. This is what Mitt did and he did it four times.
Back to the lying – below are three quotes – all attributed to Mitt Romney and his “desire” to serve or his preference not to serve and if he did anything specific to avoid serving. I will present them in chronological order with my comments after each quote. Some of you might not like my comments regarding Mitt Romney’s quotes.
As you will see, Mitt’s own statements contradict one another – proving that Mitt is truly a liar – especially regarding the Vietnam War.
Quote # 1: May 2, 1994. While Mitt Romney was running against Ted Kennedy for Ted’s Massachusetts seat to the U.S. Senate, Romney said, “I was not planning on signing up for the military. It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam,” Romney told the Boston Herald.
Comment # 1: Romney’s comment was straight forward and for all appearances represented his true feelings at the time. Mitt’s own father, George, did not want Mitt going off to war and as a result, Mitt took the same position. All is well so far here.
Quote # 2: Romney, in the same interview with the Boston Herald on May 2, 1994, continued with, “but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft,” Romney told the newspaper.
Comment # 2: Enter bold lie #1. In the above quote, Mitt lied to the Boston Herald. Mitt actually applied for and received four draft deferments that kept his name from being called for military service. If his number came up, everyone with that number would have received draft notices – EXCEPT for those who were issued deferments. Again, Mitt wanted, asked for, applied for, and received deferment after deferment after deferment after deferment – a total of four deferments to avoid military service.
To make it simple, make believe Mitt was on a football team and Romney was not a starter – instead he was a second stringer sitting on the bench. If Romney had a tummy ache, he could have told one of the coaches that he felt too sick to play and that coach would have told Mitt to go back to the dressing room and get a shower and change into street clothes and go home and get better. If the head coach looked down and yelled, “Romney, go in for Jones,” Romney would not have been there to go in and the other coach would have told the head coach that Mitt was sick and went home.
Instead of being sick, Mitt got an excused absence to go to France for a couple of years and then he got two more deferments to stay in college – and Mitt applied for all four of those deferments. Oh, I forgot, Mitt got his first deferment while attending Stanford for 2 semesters and then he dropped out of Stanford.
Quote # 3: This quote was made 13 years later, still in Boston, but to a different newspaper – this time to the Boston Globe. Maybe he thought he could easily get away with lying to a different newspaper. Not really, Mitt feels he is so superior that he can lie to anyone – anytime.
While running for president in 2007, Romney told the Boston Globe, “I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.”
Comment # 3: Believe me; I couldn’t make up this crap. Keep in mind that Mitt’s first Vietnam comment was in 1994 and he clearly stated that he had no desire to serve in the military during the Vietnam War, so, where did this “born again” quote come from? Now, Mitt, thirteen years later, is saying that he longed to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.”
I almost got sick reading the above quote. First, none of the million plus Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airmen were REPRESENTING our country – they were serving our country – much like the clergy serve their Lord. He also said “in some ways”, so what were the ways that it was frustrating for him?
I also believe that you are not “part of the troops”; you are fighting ALONGSIDE your fellow troops in Vietnam.
Some might think I am splitting words but I am not – the military is a cohesive unit just like a football team or other team where every member is equally important to the success of the entire unit.
So, before I finish with my closing comments, what do you think about Mitt Romney and the possibility or probability of him being a sociopathic liar, a compulsive liar, or neither?
My closing comments:
I am not voting for Mitt Romney tomorrow, not because he waffles on a variety of subjects, I am not voting for Mitt Romney tomorrow because he is, in my estimation, a sociopathic liar.
How can we trust him to represent all Americans? He has already stated his disdain for the 47 percent and right after that video was released, Mitt tried to tell everyone he was there for 100 percent of Americans.
How can we trust him to deal in good faith with Democrats in Congress? He didn’t do it while serving as Governor of Massachusetts.
How can we trust him to deal with other countries in the world?
I am terrified about the possibility of having someone like Mitt Romney in the White House.
I am going to church in the morning to pray to God that Mitt Romney is not elected. Then I will go to the poll to vote.